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“What the libertarian typically refers to as "the state" is the uberstate – a collection of oughts that have become detached from personal interest and have taken on a life of their own. “

This conclusion seems to deserve some explanation, evidence, or argument, rather than being treated as a casual and obvious observation.

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Well, the whole text tries to explain this :). Are you familiar with Freud's structural "model of the psyche"? It can help to understand my text. Ultimately, it is a model - the result of a conceptualisation. It defines. It is a concept that goes beyond the usual dichotomy of state vs. market, with the uberstate as something that has withdrawn from the individual will and ratio, as Freud's superego.

What I ultimately want to say is that "the state" (as it is conventionally understood by libertarians, going back to Oppenheimer) is more than just a robber. It is much more. An uberstate, a collective mental state.

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The text treats it more like a premise than a conclusion.

I am not familiar with Freud.

This post seems to be saying something similar to what I read long ago in a blog by the “bad Quaker.” He had an interesting idea, something like “the state is not really an organization, it is a mind virus that causes people to treat some persons and organizations differently from others, for reasons they would not accept in other situations.”

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Yes. It is essentially based on the Kantian understanding of knowledge: you need a pure or conceptual part in order to be able to grasp the found world as a datum in the first place. A priori parts, so to speak. In German we call it "Vorstellung", a concept or idea that you put in front of something you want to understand.

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